. >> and jennifer ruber and stephen law. jen, i go to you first. really, if you can't cut a little pbs, what can you you cut. this is going to kill obama. >> it drives people back to that debate. rox knee couldn't get a better person to run. and i think they are convinced that they can still. destroy romney. i don't think that is possible after 70 million people see it directly and make an assessment of this guy. and they have another week before the presidential debate while public opinion sets in. he is pumped up and i'll have it written up tomorrow. he sounds poised and focused and i think the president is in a little bit of trouble. >> first of all, saesame street wants the add pulled and third of all, the thing that troubles me, he will not face the press. not once after the bengazi ca tr catastrophy. >> as far as big bird, it was fun and it made a good point. if more children had been educated by that program in their early years. i think the add is over the top in many ways and plus, if you are going to do it, get it first. but look, i agree